Monday, June 8, 2009
Trinity Exposed
ORIGIN OF TRINITY:
The origins of the Trinity doctrine are appalling. Like most historic issues pertaining to Christianity, there was much deceit and bloodshed. Many lives were lost before 'Trinitarianism' was finally adopted.
As many Christians know, the word "trinity" does not appear in the Bible. It doesn't because it is a doctrine that evolved in early Christianity. It was manipulated, bloody and deadly process before it finally arrived as an 'accepted' doctrine of the church.
History of Origin
CONSTANTINE – The Trinity process begins
Flavius Valerius Constantius (c. 285-337 AD), Constantine the Great, was the son of Emperor Constantius I. When his father died in 306 AD, Constantine became emperor of Britain, Gaul (now France), and Spain. Gradually he gained control of the entire Roman empire.
As days passed by, two major opponents surfaced and debated whether Christ was a created being (Arius doctrine) or not created but rather coequal and coeternal to God his father (Athanasius doctrine).
The situation became intense and Constantine realized that the his empire was being threatened by the doctrinal rift. Constantine began to pressure the church to come to terms with its differences. Finally the emperor called a council at Nicea in 325 AD to resolve the dispute.
The emperor manipulated, coerced and threatened the council to be sure it voted for what he believed rather than an actual consensus of the bishops. The majority of bishops voted under pressure from Constantine for the Athanasius doctrine.
Arius was condemned and exiled. Constantine decreed that anyone caught with Arius documents would be subject to the death penalty. Thus Jesus Christ, a Phrophet, was made co-equal to God!
Trinity was politically motivated:
The present day Christian church touts Constantine as the first Christian emperor. However, his 'Christianity' was politically motivated. Whether he personally accepted Christian doctrine is highly doubtful. He continued to retain his title of high priest in a pagan religion until his death. He was not baptized until he was on his deathbed.
Even with the adoption of the Nicaean Creed, problems continued and in a few years, the Arian faction began to regain control. They became so powerful that Constantine restored them and denounced the Athanasius group.
Arius's exile was ended along with the bishops who sided with him. It was now Athanasius who would be banished. When Constantine died (after being baptized by an Arian Bishop), his son reinstated the Arian philosophy and bishops and condemned the Athanasius group.
In the following years the political foes continue to struggle and finally the Arians misused their power and were overthrown. The religious/political controversy caused widespread bloodshed and killing.
In 381 AD, Emperor Theodosius (a Trinitarian) convened a council in Constantinople. Only Trinitarian bishops were invited to attend. Around 150 bishops attended and voted to alter the Nicene creed to include the Holy Spirit as a part of the Godhead. The Trinity doctrine was now official for both the church and the state. Dissident bishops were expelled from the church, and excommunicated.
The Athanasius (Trinitarian) Creed was finally established in (probably) the 5th century. It was not written by Athanasius but adopted his name. It stated in part:
"We worship one God in Trinity . . . The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God; and yet they are not three gods, but one God."
By the 9th century the creed was established in Spain, France and Germany. It had taken centuries from the time of Christ for the trinity doctrine to catch on. Government and church politics were the reasons the trinity came into existence and became church orthodoxy.
As you have seen, the Trinitarian doctrine came from deceit, politics, a pagan emperor and warring factions who brought about death and bloodshed. Why the original clamour to elevate Jesus and the Holy Spirit to positions equal to the Christian/Judaeo God? Simply, the pagan world was quite used to having "three gods" or "trinities" as their deities. The trinity satisfied the majority of Christians who had come from pagan backgrounds. Christianity didn't get rid of the pagan trinities, it adopted them as it did so many other pagan traditions.
The founders of the early Christian church had no idea that the Trinity concept would evolve, be voted upon by politicians, forced by emperors and eventually become an integral part of Christianity such as we have it today. Is it any wonder that its "difficult" to explain?
Is there one Christian God or Three In One? The majority of Christian churches hold to the Trinity doctrine but there are still Christian church holdouts that reject the teaching.
Trinity Exposed
If the Father and His Son were both in "existence" from the Day One, and no one was, a micro second before or after, and, no one was "greater or lesser" in status, then why one is called the Father and the other His begotten Son?
Jesus denied the TRINITY concept :
5:116 AND LO! God said: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, `Worship me and my mother as deities beside God'?" [Jesus] answered: "Limitless art Thou in Thy glory! It would not have been possible for me to say what I had no right to [say]! Had I said this, Thou wouldst indeed have known it! Thou knowest all that is within myself, whereas I know not what is in Thy Self. Verily, it is Thou alone who fully knowest all the things that are beyond the reach of a created being's perception.
5:117 Nothing did I tell them beyond what Thou didst bid me [to say]: `Worship God, [who is] my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer.' And I bore witness to what they did as long as I dwelt in their midst; but since Thou hast caused me to die, Thou alone hast been their keeper: for Thou art witness unto everything.
Bible Denies Trinity concept!
The Bible has many more verses denying the Trinity than it has confirming it:
"Why callest me good? There is none good but one, that is God" (Matthew 19:17)
". . .for my Father is greater than I. . ." (John 14:28)
"My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)
"O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt." (Matthew 26:39)
"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46)
"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32)
"Who has gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God" (Peter 3:22)
Christian Dilemma...
Here is the dilemma. Christians know that in order for Jesus to be the savior of mankind, he must also be God. The bible says so. If he is not God, then he cannot be the savior. His death would be meaningless.
So Christians have invented the Trinity to explain Christ's divinity. He is man. He is God. He is both. He must be in order to be the savior. Unfortunately, he is ambivalent at best. Sometimes he claims to be one with God. Sometimes he admits God knows things which he doesn't know and does things which he cannot do. Christians go to nearly any length to prove the Trinity including the declaration that its a "mystery" and we "just don't have the mind to understand it".
Is the bible the perfect, inerrant word of God? The Christian created Trinity doctrine and the contradictions which must accompany the doctrine sound a resounding "No"! So how did the Trinity doctrine/dogma come into existence?
Constituent of Father, Son and the Holy Ghost:
Are the constituents of all these three things, - father, son, that is Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and holy ghost, the same?
We know very well that human beings have got flesh and bones - A spirit and God Almighty have got no flesh and bones. Human beings require to eat -God Almighty does not require to eat.
...And the same message Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) gave - Its mentioned in the Gospel of Luke Ch. No.24, V.No.39 to 43. That, ‘Behold my hands and feet - Its I myself. Handle me and see - that a spirit has got no flesh and bones as you see me have. And he gave his hands and feet - And they were overjoyed. To prove what? that he was not a spirit - he was not God Almighty.
...And the verse continues ‘Do you have meat to eat’ and the next verse says that he ate broiled fish and honey comb. To prove what? - that he was God? NO! But to prove that he was not God! Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said, ‘A spirit has no flesh and bones as I have' Thus proving that he was nor a spirit neither Almighty God.
A father, a brother and a businessman!
A person can be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time, - So why can’t God be father, son and holy ghost?!
ANSWER:
If suppose, someone tells a secret to the brother, natural even the father and businessman will know that secret, because he is one and the same person.
But when you read in the Bible, in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No. 13, Verse No. 32, it says ‘Of that day, of that hour, knoweth no man, - no, not even the angels in the heaven, nor the son of man, but the father’. ‘The knowledge of the hour of that day - no one knows!
Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said ‘Except the Father’ - not even the angels, not even himself. If Father -, the God Almighty, and Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), were one and the same - then if knowledge of hour is known to God Almighty, even Jesus should know about it.
So this proves that they were not one. Further, if the brother dies, even the father and the businessman will die. So when Jesus Christ, according to the Bible, died on the Cross - do you mean to say even God Almighty and the Holy ghost died?
Trinity - The riddle game!
Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost third.
Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both.
The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son.
The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two.
So it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son and the Holy Ghost God, and these three Gods make one God. According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three time one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar: if we add two to one we have but one. Each one equal to himself and to the other two.
Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.
Trinity before Christ?!
Historian Will Durant observed: "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity." And in the book Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz notes: "The trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians .
Babylon had: [1] Anu [2] Bel and [3] Ena;
India had: [1] Brahma [2] Vishnu and [3] Shiva;
Roman [1] Jupiter [2] Juno and [3] Minerva;
Greece [1] Zeus] [2] Apollo and [3] Hermes
Egypt [1] Osirus [2] Isis [3] Horus
Buddhism [1] Dharmakaya [2] Sambhoga Kaya [3] Nirmana Kaya
Saivism [1] Appan [2] Ammai [3] Makan
The Trinity; a molecule of God?
The three forms of water (solid, liquid, vapour) have sometimes been used to illustrate the Trinity.
The water analogy simply fails. This is due to the fact that a cube of ice, a cup of water, and a volume of water vapour must each be separate if they are to exist at the same time. A cup of liquid cannot be solid and vapourous at the same time.
Since God is one and not divisible (for no greater power exists to divide Him) the analogy fails.
The Catholic Encyclopedia:
"In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180. . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian."
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